Shouting about the disgrace of our society. We need to face upto the fact that killing animals is just unacceptable. Do something worthwhile today. Be vegan.
This is an odd one. I have just been looking around the web as I sometimes do when I am too tired to do any work and I came across someone on a social network saying how much they hated vegans. Apparently we are brainless, smug and need a good steak. I then did some research and found many similar attitudes. At this point I would like to say that a lot of these statements were badly written and childish so perhaps vegans are not the only ones with empty heads.
I wonder if this hatred is due to vegans being honest about the way they feel about the death of billions of animals and meat eating vegan haters not liking to be reminded that they are part of a killing process. Most meat eating friends I have spoken to about veganism are genuinely interested in why I choose not to eat meat and most admit to never really thinking about how animals are killed or if they deserve to have a right to have children and keep them for example. I don’t know if it changes their habits, I would like to think so and if that makes me smug then I guess I am smug. I don’t feel smug because everywhere I look there is unnecessary death and that just makes me very sad.
As a vegan I do not feel brainless, smug or in need of chewing and swallowing the flesh of a dead body. As a vegan I feel sad that I live in world where people seem to be lacking in compassion, I feel annoyed that I cannot eat with friends or family in a restuarant because I feel sick when I see bodies cut up and I feel that the world will never become a better place with so many people living in denial about what they are doing.
To those who defiantly say they know all about how animals are treated and how they do not care that they suffer and laugh at vegans, saying things like ‘for every piece of meat you don’t eat I’ll eat three’, then I must conclude you are less intelligent than those you eat.
I used to eat meat, wear leather and basically had the same contempt for animals which I see on a daily basis everywhere I look. I became a vegetarian after seeing newborn lambs prancing around and not wanting to be responsible for them being murdered. I became a vegan when I was thinking of breastfeeding my son and finally understood what the dairy industry is all about. What I know now, I did not know then. No longer living in ignorance, I have no option but to write this blog.
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Hello there,
oh, I SO agree with you. Thank you.
The ordinary madness (like everywhere)
Some people just want to argue. They aren’t interested in objective responses or explanations about vegan arguments.
For them vegans are:
- wimps
- plant murderer
- a misguided minority
- peaky and unhealthy
- know-it-alls and moralizers
But most vegans are people who recognized the consequences of their actions and the involved responsibilities for people, animals and environment.
Green greetings from Germany
ok look i know how animals are killed and everything but if we didnt kill and eat the animals there whould be an over populattion of all the animals and since my ancesters where indians they used everything that the animal had to offer and none of the animals where wasted. and i dont think you guys are wimps i think you guys need to think about what u are doing to your selfs cause you see if it wherent for those animals you probably would not be alive so you guys need to realise that meat and everything involved with meat is good for you and the animals do have souls but they where created to help use survive and learn
I think the ‘they were created for us’ is an excuse used far too often. I don’t believe humanity has to be so selfish in their behaviour. I do not believe eating meat is good for me as I am healthier now than when I ate dead bodies. I do understand as we evolved it was necessary as options were limited but human beings can continue to adapt to their environment and are capable of great things – they have to be if the species is to survive. I don’t understand how you can say animals have souls but that is is fine to kill them (and please look at the PETA site to see just how we kill them and how much agony they often experience). I do not believe in God and if I did, I would be disappointed in him.
thanks for sharing you elitist shit.
Thanks for reading it. Why does it upset you so much that people don’t want to kill things?
i am a newly converted vegan, i have been vegan for a month now and very proudly. I am tormented by the world i live in and the suffering of humans and animals. My conscience is heavy and becoming vegan is helping me and the more i read the more i am happy with the choice i have made. However, my eating habits have become central to debate in my family. i am equally against the exploitation and killing of animals and i undersatnd that in the past it may have been necessary to kill and eat animals and in some areas of the world it still is. But i credit myself with a brain and an education and i feel that living in the grossly greedy and excessive western world that i do i don’t have to be brainwashed by the media, the nhs and the food companies to eat meat or dairy products. I feel becoming vegan has set me free in so many ways. It’s just a shame i am not around more like minded people.
Admin,
As a meat-eater, I’m ok with you thinking and believing the things you’ve mentioned in your post. The only times I have problems with vegans is when they start imposing their beliefs on other people and calling them murderers if they disagree. To be honest, that’s just plain rude and disrespectful.
Now that I think about it, perhaps that is why some non-vegans have said that you vegans are “smug.”
Tallius:
A vegan for what is soon to be a year, I agree that sometimes we can get a little preachy. However, we sincerely equivocate animal slaughter with a neatly-packaged Holocaust, along with a massive atrocity to the environment around us. These strong feelings contribute massively to our less-than-closeted beliefs.
Supporters of such slaughter, although too often ignorant to the circumstances by which their meal came to lie dead on their plate, are still supporters. Seeing people eat meat is something like watching a murderer chop up an innocent five year old to a normal person.
Ghandi said something to the effect that a nation’s worth can be determined by how it treats its animals. That’s another huge issue of debate.
The more compassion a country has for its animals, the more compassion its people will have for each other. It’s a respect for the rights of another sentient being to live & enjoy the time that the earth has provided for it.
If you look into the sheer environmental aspect of a omnivorous diet, it’s worth it enough to cut your meat consumption by 20%- which is approximately the environmental equivalent of switching to a hybrid car.
To roundabout back the the point: is it considered disrespectful for Americans to protest for the execution of a murderer or to speak openly against that?
Although we see differently, you would likely defend some of your own beliefs to the death as much as a vegan or vegetarian would. Although you may not be as outspoken about whatever your platform in life is, if it were called into question or if the contrary elements of your beliefs were openly paraded in front of your eyes in a murderous fashion every day and you began to see the devastating effects on the world around you, we might see the best come out of your fighting spirit.
Corpses do not make good lunches.
I think the arguement that animals would either be overpopulating earth or either they wouldn’t be here is silly . They are only so great in number bEacause we farm them this way… And they would be far better off fewer in number and free than numerous and in cages. And as for the past back then there was little choice but now we are able to live healthily and well as vegans harming no one and generally being enviromentally friendly. Ifi was stuck on an island with only meat to eat I would revert from veganism to survive, but as I am not in that situation I make the choice to go that bit extra effort and be vegan. We as humans have that ability so we should stop being lazy and make it. And it also annoys me how people go ‘is veganism why your so thin?!!’ and I hate that they think my natural slimness means veganism is unhealthy. I eat much better than my other teen girl friends yet still eat lotsa vegan cake. It’s annoying. Meat eaters are waay more preachy I find
keep on keepin on…
Here’s my problem with veganism, ethically raised dairy cows and egg hens have a symbiotic relationship with humanity, we’ve evolved together, we take care of them, give them food, shelter and medical care and in exchange we get eggs/milk, and essentially vegans want to turn these animals into parasites because that’s what they’d become if we didn’t use them, or more likely want them all dead, because they would die… and quickly if they were released into the wild.
I been playing with idea of becoming a vegan, or at least vegetarian.
This came to me when I started to be more involved with animal rights activists and advocates. I’ve seen some horrors which I never will shake off.
Just recently I had a “run-in” with the vegan person, well actually
I was defending a cancer sick friend from some Buddhist person who was literally calling my friend an immoral thief and nearly a murderer for buying some milk from a very small free range farm…
My friend recently opened no meat (actually sweets) cafe and served vegan, organic, fair trade, kosher, halal, sugar free, fat free stuff for diabetics and people who observe different dietary laws, as well as vegan treats for dogs and cats. Essentially doing a wonderful thing.
The only reason this vegan-bully was even jumping at my friend because she is one of the people who would listen, and that vegan person felt all mighty powerful while we were trying to explain to her that all things are gradual and that was one of the steps in this direction.
Well, No can do for that bully, she kept attacking like a mad dog.
I doubt she would strike similar attack in, say, butcher shop,
she would be laughed off and probably given and nice and juicy knuckle sandwich to follow…
Sad part that that vegan person did not cared about converting anybody to be vegan, she was out to get anybody she could so she can feel superior.
Well, she was smug, uppity, self righteousness and at the end
both my friend and me confessed to each other that we both
were craving a burger…. ;P
well….. so for many vegans (not for all) but many
it is mostly about “mine is better than yours..” stuff and that is a huge turn off.
I’m so sorry to hear that Ann, yes, there are some very smug vegans in the world but there are also many very lovely, down to earth, non-judgemental ones too! I am somewhere inbetween I have to admit as i do sometimes catch myself wondering how people can be so foul as to eat dead animals and not care about the suffering to that creature…yet then I remember I ate meat until I was 25. So what does that say about me. That I am one of those cruel heartless people… or that I did not have the awareness to make the decision I made? I turned veggie after seeing my mother prepare lamb after watching lambs leaping around a local field. I turned vegan after having mastitus and researching it to find how many cows suffer untreated, leading me to find out about what happens to all the newborn cows from the mums our culture continually impregnate. As a mother myself, it broke my heart. So my journey is a personal one and everyone that makes this decision will have goine through their own. I wish I had been brought up a vegetarian or vegan and my children are veggie and already they thank me for it and ask why people want to eat meat. I only hope these people will not put you off making a decision that you should make for your own reasons, to live a more compassionate life, without violence towards innocent beings. I also send my best wishes to you as that situation is one that would have made me upset and angry too. Thanks for posting.
Lynn, using your theory, if a country became overpopulated, would we start eating people? I don’t think so. Animals are living creatures and they didn’t ask to be slaughtered.
As an omnivore and a supertaster, I can go on for hours on why I think a vegan diet is stupid. However, that’s stupid in itself. I simply agree to disagree and go on. The problem with most vegans is they’re liberal, toms shoe wearing, macbook toting, starbucks drinking stereotype. Obviously a lot aren’t like this, but it stems from a primitive instinct to hate what you don’t understand- a logical person will be intrigued and learn about it, but a non-logical person will not.
I’m also someone who’s dated two vegans, and I know a lot about both sides (as I’m a supertaster). One thing that I noticed about my ex’s is they focused more on how much they hated meat eaters than how much good they’re doing for animals. I also think a lot of vegans don’t understand how many animal bi-products are in EVERYTHING (from book spine glue to shoes, and then the people that make vegan stuff while utilizing animal bi-products but have a vegan product in the end).
When us meat-eaters search for vegan stuff, we come up with things like this. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100530233300AAwJdJe . It really makes vegans look terrible imo, and though I know better, a lot of people don’t. So just represent your beliefs in non-condescending way. Also understand that not EVERYONE can become a vegan. I would LOVE to be a vegan, but there is little food that I could eat since I am a supertaster, though I eat what I can. Keep in mind that 25% of the population is also supertasters…. it’s surprising how many vegans and veg-heads don’t even know this.
I found this entire piece unintentionally hilarious.
People hate vegans because of smug self-gratifying people like yourself who give them all a bad name.
Eat what you will, but you are not better than anyone else.
Sure, dislike me for being compassionate.